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the truth hurts.
05/04/09 at 07:05:34
 
I don't understand how it can be that I so much want to be his best friend, and at the same time be completely upset when he does open up to me.  I sometimes wish I could be  the one he can tell anything to...everything.  He tells me pretty much everything but he doesnt talk much about the home life with me, which I am both glad and sad about.  The few times that he does tell me the smallest details it just makes me feel so sad, like all the wind just get knocked right out of me. He rarely tells me anything about his other life with her so my mind makes up it's own details.  I do know some of what his life is like first hand as we are all kind of in the same circle of people, so I see snip its from time to time, not exactly the picture of the "happy couple," but still I guess I'm always wanting to hear it from him.  I want him to tell me, to verify what I feel inside, so that I don't feel like some love sick little puppy, making up ideas in my own mind.  Anyways, so some friends of ours were all going to go hang together and so there was a group invite sent out and his response..unfortunatley he can't go as THEY are having his daughters b-day party at the house and it is his anniversary that day....  ouch.  I guess I should be careful of what I wish for.  I got more info and it hurt like hell.  
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Reply #1 - 05/09/09 at 12:54:02
 
This has always been one of the most painful aspects for me as well.

In order to maintain the secrecy that we all require, we have to keep up a facade to family and friends, and that includes responses to mass emails.  I have to constantly remind Jane that what she sees that is meant for public consumption is part of the grand ruse.

Jane can get horribly jealous when I'm doing something that seems "family oriented" with my wife.  Things that, I recognize, SHE would rather do with me.  I'm sure I'd feel the same way but am lucky that her husband isn't the type to do that kind of stuff (thus, her need for me).

After many an argument, we came up with a plan to address some of this.  When she starts to complain about how "nice" I'm being to the wife, or how some loving comment she overheard hurt her...rather than argue and explain and try to justify, I simply say "AUDIENCE."

This serves to remind her that when she is seeing the public persona, that it is behavior that is tailored to the audience, it's an act, nothing more.

Crazy love, in your case...not telling you about his home life may be sparing you from being witness to his performances.  Obviously, it could mean more too, but I'll bet most of us following the good advice on this site have to play our roles from time to time.

We can take off the masks when we are with the ones we love!

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Reply #2 - 05/12/09 at 00:17:29
 
Thank you for sharing a different perspective Dick,  it is always helpful to hear a male perspective, as I believe we men and women  are wired slightly different.  I can't very well go out and ask my guy friends about it  Lips Sealed  I feel in my heart that it is as you say, a "role" that he simply is playing.  He has told me as much, but as a woman, a woman in an incredibly complex situation, I find that I do need that reasurance from time to time.  It's like a cut that you keep picking at.  It hurts but you pick at it just the same.  I don't want to pry or make things uncomfortable, the time I do have him all to myself we cherish and I just want to absorb every moment, so I don't bring it up, but I supose sometimes I just want him to say it...that his emotions are not involved when he is with her and that he's in love with me.  My guy isn't the super expressive emotional type, and I love that about him, he's more a do-er than a sayer, and what he does in my everyday life says it all.  It is my own insecurities that drives these questions.  Yes Dick you are SO lucky that you don't have to deal with those thoughts of  Jane having moments with somebody else.  Fake or genuine, it is a heart wrenching thing to experience non the less.  It is something both he and I deal with, I can tell by the tone in his voice  at the mention of a "family" event that it hurts him just the same as me.  I guess that is a little bit comforting in itself.  Not that I ever in a million years would want him to hurt. It is hard to put in to words, but I feel comfort in his reaction to my relationship "sharade" that I am not alone, that he feels it too.
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Reply #3 - 05/18/09 at 11:52:28
 
You know, Crazy, when this makes me feel uncomfortable I like to remind myself that I KNOW the real Brogan.  Not the person everyone THINKS they know.  I know his deepest, darkest secrets.  They involve me Smiley .  He opens up to me in a way he cannot and won't to anyone else.  After all, I'm part of his secret life.  In fact, I AM his secret life.

If we were to ever end up together, this is a side of his personality he could never hide from me.  He can hide all of this from his wife, his family, his co-workers, but he can never hide this from me.

After four years, I am closer to the REAL Brogan, than anyone he knows, including the wife he's been married to for fifteen years, at least until he decides to fess up, which I don't foresee happening.

Instead of feeling as though you are on the outside looking in, you should know you are on the inside, the deep and hidden and cherished inside, looking out Smiley


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Reply #4 - 05/20/09 at 22:31:38
 
what an amazingly accurate ray of light you just shined on me, thank you for that Red. I mean, you are absolutely right, and you put it so clearly into words.  I will have to readjust my view the next time that I'm feeling outside, because it is most definitely not where I am, thank you for the reminder  Smiley
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Reply #5 - 06/03/10 at 03:00:19
 
Funny this should come up now. I am now dealing with some thoughts and fears of losing him. He has been going through financial hard times, due to no work in a year. I have been helping him as much as I can. But I have noticed he has been contacting me less and less. (by text or phone) My God.........I thought I was important to him.........enough to share his worries. He has not contacted me in 8 days. at first...I remained calm. but now I am afraid to look at my cell...for fear that there will be no message, no missed call. And that has the reality of it.This makes me feel left out. And I have been fighting the temptation to contact him. Figuring i am bothering him in his time of worry.
    I guess I should mention that we have been together for 9 years this July. And I am still hanging on to the hope of a future with him.
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Reply #6 - 06/12/10 at 17:06:34
 
wow that would really hurt me too.  Maybe he is not wanting to appear weak to you.  I know most strong men tend to shell up when they feel inadequate.  Financial stress can most definitely make one feel inadequate.  With you helping him out, this might be making him feel even more insecure with him self.  I would reach out to him maybe in an indirect way (maybe a text or thoughtful email) so that if he still needs his space he has it but just that he knows you are there and thinking of him.
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